baucus, veteran democrat in cycle, up for reelection in 2014, $5 million in the bank said i'm tired of this and not going to run. so if you add him to karl eleven, tom harkin jay rockefeller, frank lautenberg this is bad news for democrats. >> yeah, frank lautenberg not likely to have won. but a couple of these -- montana is a red state, and a democrat winning there is going to be tough. >> bill: and [ inaudible ] just got reelected. >> yeah, harry reid is counting heads and those are some hard seats we is going to have to count for. center manchin is . but you have the guys up for re election that are running. senator pryor, senator hagan, these are folks that will be running really hard races. so the democrats are counting seats, and when you have someone who is going to retire, it's going to be a fight for them. >> bill: and the same thing for the senator in iowa, red-blue state, but not blue. >> yeah, there's two harkin in iowa that state is a little bit more swing state. louisiana a red state, but she is a 12-year incumbent, she has run before, so she is a little less vulnerabl